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Sailor Squad pt 1 by leviathen Sailor Squad pt 1 :iconleviathen:leviathen 183 17 Pinup Base 1 by Appledore
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Pinup base 2 by Appledore
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We are a group focused on providing better quality bases to the dollers of DeviantART. Pixel bases only. We also have categories for those who wish to improve-- don't be intimidated by the name! Learn and love the ways of the basemaker.
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I've been thinking about the folders. Should I change them? I mean, instead of sorting them by style, should I resort them into categories like male, female, unisex? or should it be by full body, portrait? I wish there were subfolders. xD;;

tell me what you want. If you like the folder system the way it is (which I don't. >>) or do you want something different? I'm open to any and all suggestions<3

I'd like to remind everyone that there are guidelines for what is and is not allowed in BetterBases, and if you ever have any questions about if your submission should be in the group, why your submission was declined, or any other questions, you can feel free to note the group, or me, valokilljoy.

We do try and keep quality control in this group. This isn't meant as an insult to new basemakers or anything. It is what it is: quality control.


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Geilheit Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Can I please join?
tenchibaka Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2014
so this is a silly question(but also why i have never strove to join this group) why is it you allow 'references' from stolen sources but not races from stolen sources? wouldn't it be easier to just not allow works made through theft? i would like to join but you guys have things that are from copyrighted material like the victorias secret bases and the winx base
FallingThroughGlass Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I am not the one who makes the rules in the group, but personally I think there is a big difference in using a reference and being inspired by a pose or by a model. (most images you find on the web are not protected under a copyright anyway, **they are reposted so much the website hosting the image and sharing it publicly is more of a problem** so there is not much legal standing). Tracing an image and calling it yours is literally stealing. If you choose to give credit, that is fine and not stealing, but still tracing. This is my personal opinion, not the group's opinion, seeing as how we all get on at different times and look at different parts of the group (I just happened to see this comment in my feed). I think tracing has a lack of effort and originality.

Let us say someone took an image of a VS model posing with another VS model and they traced it. They have copied it 100%. It lines up perfectly and it is almost an exact copy. When someone references that same pose, they have almost always changed it (not intentionally, it just happens at the hands of artists) at least 40-50%. So when you lay that base over the reference, the proportions might be off. . . or they could've changed the expression and hand placement. People who reference usually take the picture of the models/figures and break it down into simple shapes (or however they start their figure drawings) and redraw it, then they fill it in with their own styles. 

Almost every image is based off of something. Everything is referenced from something and there is a fine line between copying/stealing and being inspired and trying to recreate it with your own style.

Remember, the only way you know how to draw a hand is by looking at one. ;] 
tenchibaka Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014
there are two very big flaws with your argument that i would like to adress

1. just because you are not willing to look for copyright does not mean there is not a copyright. virtually all works, if you actually look, will have somewhere a disclaimer giving the details of the copyright and the creator's intention, where it does not there is an option to ask the creator. saying that something does not have a copyright just because you were too lazy to look is not only NOT an excuse it also means that you are stealing. you did not get permission that means you are stealing. it does not matter how you personally feel it /is/ stealing. that is irrifutable. it is a law in nearly every country on earth and my dear you can go look it the hell up it is called the berne convention and the universal copyright convention. if your country is on there it applies to you;…

second. a disclaimer is NOT consent and NOT permission. it is a violation of the terms of service of this site and virtually all other registered sites on the internet including those that only host 3rdparty content. it is called reading the terms of service and the rules, heck even da has a little faq on it;


if i take this image;

and i copy or trace it(does not matter which) and i do not ask for YOUR permission, even if i say it was originally by you i am not stealing, right? by your own admission everything in your gallery can be used by me without me asking as long as i give you credit somewhere. you can see where i am going with this correct?

stealing is stealing is stealing darling, it does not matter /why/ you stole, it does not matter /how/ you stole, it does not even matter if you /feel/ you are not stealing it, if you take something that does not belong to you without permission from the person it does belong to then you've stolen it and if they outright say you are not allowed to use it then no amount of crediting will make it un-stolen

remember, drawing your own hand is fine, drawing a hand you randomly found on google without checking to see if you are allowed is not.
FallingThroughGlass Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014  Student Traditional Artist

:] Then don't use them.  

KohakuJSMA Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I do these too, but with my OC, with like a swimsuit, and call it "edits".

Like the ones you do, I call them "frames".
That's just me. :shrug:
mercykillings Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013
Wow! I just found this group and it makes me so happy! I left dolling for a few years (back when traced anime bases were getting big) and I am devastated to see that dA is full of those now...
Spudfuzz Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013
I'm happy I found this group too. I like to make anime bases, but out of my own work and I don't like them to be associated with any traced/ plagiarised bases from official artwork or screen caps. Seems there's too many groups that allow it or refuse to understand copyright law. 
SavageFrog Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:stare: why do I keep finding you in my stalking grounds?
Spudfuzz Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2014
Why do I keep finding you in MY stalky grounds? >:V
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